One problem you have, when travelling with another 54 year old bozo is that, we both  have 54 year old  prostate. They canno't hold liquid, for period as long as they  used to. Since we drank lot's of water all the time, I think it would be safe to say that 20% of the trip is spent watching over each other's back this way, only the scenery changes. I know Pete is just going to love this picture, he should feel  lucky, I had a front one that could be zoomed in and then anyone with a Vector toll could have measured it, lucky him. that I chose this one...