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Nous avons posé certaines questions à des organismes ou entreprises spécialisées en enquête d'incendie, au sujet de l'utilisation du Guide NFPA 921.
Voici les réponses que nous avons obtenues?


Applied Technical Services, Inc. : Liens d'intérêt / Service Panel Fires

1- What is the field of application in the U.S.A.?

Fire Investigation. Civil, Criminal

2- Is the NFPA 921 has influenced court decision in U.S.A.?

Very much so. NFPA 921 urges the use of the scientific method. Any fire investigator who wants to have any credibility with a jury states that s/he has followed 921, and therefore has followed the scientific method. Investigators who really haven't followed the scientific method can have their testimony excluded. See, Benfield v. Michigan Millers Mutual, a case ruled on by the 11th Circuit court of Appeals in May of this year. U.S.C.A. No. 97-2138

3- What is the impact of the NFPA 921 on fire and arson litigations?

It has had a major impact in many cases, and is almost always brought up in fire cases where two fire investigators disagree as to cause, origin, or spread.
John J. Lentini, Certified Fire Investigator
Fellow, American Board of Criminalistics

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Sam Lewis
Arson Investigation curriculum coordinator at the Georgia Public Safety Training Center,
1000 Indian Springs Drive, Forsyth,
Georgia 31029, United States


I am the Arson Investigation curriculum coordinator at the Georgia Public Safety Training Center, 1000 Indian Springs Drive, Forsyth, Georgia 31029, United States. Since its publication in 1992, NFPA 921 has been a document of considerable consternation here in the State of Georgia. Our neighboring state, Alabama, adopted NFPA 921 as a "standard" for all arson investigations throughout that state. I'm sure that they have since learned to regret that mistake.

In Georgia our state is governed by multiple agencies with various jurisdictions for various aspects. The agency responsible for arson investigation is the Office of Insurance and Safety Fire Commissioner. That agency accepted NFPA 921 only as a "guide" which should be considered as any other research and/or reference document available in the field of arson investigation. (There are certain individuals associated with scientific fields in the United States who want to consider NFPA 921 to be much more than just a guide. It is self-serving for them.)

As you will note in the NFPA 921, 1995 Edition, the NFPA attempted to soften and clarify its position assuring the reader that it was a Guide and not a Standard. Mr. Steve Sprouse, Assistant State Fire Marshal, Office of Insurance and Safety Fire Commissioner, Seventh Floor, West Tower, Floyd Building, # 2 Martin Luther King Jr. Drive, Atlanta, Georgia, 30334, wrote Mr. Casey C. Grant, Secretary, Standards Council, NFPA, on June 9, 1998 to further clarify the position of that company as it relates to NFPA 921. I will include the contents of that letter for your information:

"Dear Mr. Grant, I hope your office may be of assistance to us in providing clarification to the latest addition of NFPA 921. After having reviewed the 1998 edition, I observed that the Technical Committee added the definitions of a standard and a guide to the Administration section of Chapter 1. I applaud them for this effort.

As you may or may not be aware, certain individuals in the legal community have attempted to hold NFPA 921 as the method in which fires are to be investigated and have touted the document as a standard. Although we find this document to be a good resource, along with a multitude of other technical resourses in the field of fire origin and cause, we do not recognize it as the standard for fire investigation. The National Fire Protection Association has previously held that it was a guide.

It is for this reason that I hope that you can clear up a matter of concern to those of us in the field of fire and areson investigation. The latest edition of your document clearly states on the rear cover, FM-97 that NFPA 921 is located in the "Bibliography of Standards." Is it the National Fire Protection Association's position to infer that 921 is a standard? It will certainly be the position of some Defense Attorneys to purport this to be the case.

As a result, we find that we spend considerable time discussing whether NFPA 921 is a standard or a guide and if we followed this standard. I would appreciate your written response to clarify this issue for the Fire Service, Law Enforcement Community, and those attorneys that purport this document to be something that it is not."

(s) W.S. Sprouse, Assistant State Fire Marshal

Although this is becoming a very long response to your request for information, I have reporduced Mr. Casey C. Grant's July 20, 1998's response below:

"Dear Assistant Marshal Sprouse:

Thank you for your letter dated 9 June, 1998, with a question regarding the status of NFPA 921, Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations.

As you indicate in your letter, NFPA 921 is a guide in accordance with Section 3-3.6.1 of the NFPA Regulations Governiing Committee Projects. As such, it is misleading to include it as part of a list under the heading "Bibliography of NFPA Standards". The title of this list should instead state "Bibliography of NFPA Technical Committee Documents", and thus, future published list of the one you have included with your letter will be corrected to use the apppropriate terminology. The term "Technical Committee Documents" is defined in Section 1-4 of the NFPA Regualations Governing Committee Projects, and include a code, standard, recommended practice, or guide excluding any index thereto.

I appreciate your bringing this question to our attention, and I hope that my response provides the necessary clarifications."

(s) Casey C. Grant, P.E. Secretary, Standards Council

All arson investigators in Georgia are trained as to the contents of NFPA 921 and the varios mistakes and inconsistencies contained therein. Each investigator carries each edition of NFPA 921 to the witness stand with him and copies of these two letters to combat unscrupulous attorneys from making this publication into something that it was never intended to be - a "Standard". Once the attorneys realize that the investigators are very knowledgeable as the 921, it ceases to be a tool for them during litigation. It is when they find an uninformed investigator that they have a field day with him. I hope I have provided some assistance and provided some help toward your training session.

Sam Lewis, Instructor, Georgia Police Academy



Sam Lewis, Instructor, Georgia Police Academy (autre cas en litige)


James G. Munger, AIFireE, CFPS

Have a number of articles, from various publications, in our library concerning 921. Among these is one which appeared in the March/April 1996 issue of NFPA Journal entitled "Fire Litigation: The Role of NFPA 921". I would be glad to send you copies of the articles, if you provide me your mailing address.

Additionally you might want to search the collection at the National Fire Academy

James G. Munger, AIFireE, CFPS
jgmcfps@cneti.com
www.jgmunger.com


Fire Facts Inc.

Good Afternoon Gilles

I am not sure whether you are referring to the United States or the United Kingdom. If your are referring to the U.K. my information is that 921 is not as yet widely used there, but is gaining popularitey in continental Europe. We have had students at our school from Belguim and Spain who have advised that it is becoming popular in those countries. Our school is once a year in the fall and the lecturers are the authors of NFPA 921.......SO THEY ARE VERY CURRENT ON THE TOPIC.

As far as the U.S. and Canada are concerned the document is quite popular and is often used in the courts in Ontario.

Fire Facts Inc.
Dennis Merkley


Frank Florence (fflorence@nfpa.org)

I have reviewed your request on information on NFPA 921, because 921 is a Guide and not a Standard its use is up to the "Authority Having Jurisdiction. We realize that it has an impact on court decisions and litigations on Arson Fires, but we do not track this information.

I will give you the phone and E-mail numbers for Terry-Dawn Hewitt, who is a Principal member of the 921 Committee. I have been told that she may have this information. Phone (403)414-1439 E-mail tdhewitt@connect.ab.ca


MChaney444@aol.com

NPFA 921 has impacted American fire investigators in a positive and negative way.

Negative-civil attorneys primarily used the guide against the unprepared fire investigator. Some public (criminal) attorneys also did this. While this was happening, the courts were also demanding that expert witnesses give scientific testimony. 921 promotes this so 921 was referenced by many attorneys in both civil and criminal court cases.

921 has tremendously impacted fire litigations. More and more attorneys are becoming intimate with it and using it:
1) to enhance their understanding of the science
2) to tear down the opposing counsel's fire expert
3) but rarely, to petition the court, stating that the fire investigator'' opinion is not scientific and asking the court to prevent the testimony.


Terry-Dawn Hewitt, McKenna Hewitt, Barristers & Solicitors

Hello Mr. Rudolphe,

I have written a book called "Fire Loss Litigation in Canada", (by T.D. Hewitt), published by Carswell and updated annually. It is in most major law libraries. See if you can get a copy of my book from the local law library or law school library - NFPA 921 is addressed in Chapter 11 (p. 11-27-11-31) and Appendix E (included in a 1997 update). If you cannot get a copy of my book, please e-mail me your mailing address and I will send you a copy of an article I wrote that addresses most of your questions.

With respect to cases in Canada, NFPA 921 has been considered by the Courts in 3 cases that I know of. There are probably more, but they do not appear in the law digests. General Accident Insurance Company (now the largest insurer in Canada) has recently announced in seminars to all of its adjusters, lawyers and investigators across Canada that compliance with NFPa 921 is now mandatory for any work done for General Accident! So it will quickly have even more of an impact.

Good luck with your seminar and let me know if you need a copy of my article.

Terry-Dawn Hewitt
McKenna Hewitt

Barristers & Solicitors
701, 10060 - 101 Ave.
Edmonton, Alberta T5J 3R8



FindLaw (Cases and Codes, USA)

U.S. Supreme Court MICHIGAN v. CLIFFORD, 464 U.S. 287 (1984)
U.S. Supreme Court MICHIGAN v. TYLER, 436 U.S. 499 (1978)
U.S. Supreme Court CAMARA v. MUNICIPAL COURT, 387 U.S. 523 (1967)
U.S. Supreme Court MIRANDA v. ARIZONA, 384 U.S. 436 (1966)



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